In this episode, Ben interviews garage rock veteran Michael Younker about his early bands (Triathalon, Sauna Heat, Gymshorts) and his latest foray into making records under his own name. The duo also discuss the virtues of speedy writing, the difficulties of holding down a job while touring, ‘Mr. Communication’, ‘So What!’, and the virtues and pitfalls of having an all-or-nothing mentality.

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