Tony Chapman built and sold two marketing agencies before deciding, fourteen years ago, that he was done with that chapter entirely. Then AI showed up, and he tells the story of what pulled him back in and away from the path he thought he'd already left behind.

Tony calls AI the most exciting development of his career, and in the same breath says he'd rather it never existed at all. He explains why both of those things are true for him at once, and what he thinks separates the people who thrive from the ones who get cast aside.

He also goes back to the version of himself paying his way through university selling radio ads, and hands over the one piece of advice that shaped everything after.

Topics: AI marketing, job loss, entrepreneurship, capitalism, career advice

GUEST: Tony Chapman | http://chatterthatmatters.ca

Originally aired on 2026-08-31

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