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#135 - Consciousness Expert Explains The 5 Levels Of The Psilocybin Experience

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Matthew Johnson is a psychedelic addiction scientist who spent over two decades at Johns Hopkins before becoming the senior researcher at Sheppard Pratt's Center of Excellence for Psilocybin Research. He's personally guided over 100 people through high-dose psilocybin sessions and says the "mystical experience" that shows up in the data predicts recovery even after you strip out how strong the drug felt.Expect to learn how the psilocybin experience changes as the dose climbs from one gram to a full "heroic dose," why a mystical-type experience predicts addiction recovery even after controlling for how intense the drug felt, what separates a mystical experience from personal insight and emotional catharsis as predictors of healing, why DMT users around the world keep reporting the same handful of entity archetypes, the peer-reviewed Rupert Sheldrake experiment testing whether people can sense who's about to call them before the phone rings, why he thinks rigorous telepathy research keeps getting ignored rather than debunked, why a hard-nosed behavioral pharmacologist ends up leaning toward an idealist view of reality, and much more…

Timestamps:

0:00:00 Trailer

0:02:28 Who Matt Johnson Actually Is

0:04:34 How He First Got Into Psychedelics

0:09:07 Did He Sense Addiction Benefits Early On

0:15:03 The First Mystical Experience Trial At Hopkins

0:16:42 What Counts As A High Dose Session

0:22:17 How The Trip Changes From 1 To 5 Grams

0:30:41 Why Mystical Experiences Predict Better Outcomes

0:33:34 Insight And Catharsis As Separate Predictors

0:39:49 DMT Entities And Machine Elves Explained

0:44:02 Why 20% Of DMT Users See The Same Beings

0:52:58 The Peer-Reviewed Telepathy Experiment That Shocked Him

0:59:32 Why No One Has Funded A Real Telepathy Study

1:11:04 Attention Schema Theory And The Illusion Of Self

1:16:00 Could A Single Cell Have Experience

1:17:54 Why He Leans Toward Idealism Over Materialism

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GS Episodes Mentioned

Michael Graziano — Challenging a Famous Neuroscientist On When Consciousness First Emerged: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnasmLpY5_8

Guest Links

Sheppard Pratt Profile: https://www.sheppardpratt.org/news-views/story/sheppard-pratt-announces-dr-matthew-w-johnson-as-senior-researcher-for-the-center-of-excellence-for-psilocybin-research-and-treatment/X: https://x.com/drug_researcherGoogle Scholar: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=fWhYUvwAAAAJ&hl=enResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Matthew-Johnson-57JHU Faculty Bio: https://hub.jhu.edu/experts/profiles/matthew-johnson/

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