The economy is a bit like a cake. Everyone keeps saying we need to grow it bigger. Everyone wants a bigger slice. But what if the oven is only so big? Katherine Trebeck is a political economist and advocate for the wellbeing economy, and this is one of the most mind-expanding honest mental health conversations Mind Cake has had. Not about therapy or coping with anxiety, but about the system underneath it all and why so many people feel ground down, burnt out and left behind. If you've ever felt the world isn't working the way it should, this conversation might explain why. Mind Cake is a comedy wellbeing podcast exploring honest mental health conversations and the stuff that actually helps, without the therapy speak.

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