This month, Johan and Andrew link up to talk about fatherhood. From looking back on their relationships with their own fathers and how it shaped the ways that they grew their own families, to thinking about how becoming dads affected their business, this podcast holds a lot of personal reflections. Johan and Andrew talk about shifting priorities, leaving money on the table to be better dads, and what drives their competitive spirit at work.


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