Cookbook author and former restaurateur Dhershini Winodan tells us how she has adapted jackfruit payasam, a common Malayalee dessert, by using local elements like gula melaka. She also talks about growing up in the Telecoms quarters in Yio Chu Kang and how the Malayalee community in Singapore has changed over time.
Dhershini Govin Winodan is a former restaurateur who started Chat Masala along Upper East Coast Road. Her latest book, My Long Table: Recipes & Memories (2023), contains over 130 recipes from Indian classics to popular international dishes, and the stories behind them. She has written articles for magazines like Her World, and appeared on radio and TV shows, including the episode “Indian Upma with a Twist” on the YouTube series Woking with Sunshine.
What Dhershini Talked About
02:41 – Why jackfruit payasam is unusual
03:20 – What is payasam made of
04:12 – Using coconut milk in payasam
04:27 –Jackfruit payasam in Kerala
08:38 – Malayali cuisine in Singapore vs Kerala
09:19 – Malayali weddings in Singapore
12:08 – Malayali festivals beyond Onam
15:24 – Managing jackfruit
19:27 – The legend of payasam and Lord Krishna
21:32 – Types of jackfruit for cooking
22:21 – How using the bronze urli pot makes a difference
24:03 – Ingredients that make her jackfruit payasam special
27:14 – How Dhershini learnt to cook
29:02 – Why she came up with the name for her restaurant Chat Masala
31:40 – About her book My Long Table
36:53 – How Malayali food is different from other Indian regional cuisines
38:26 – What Malayali food means to Dhershini
Transcript and Resources
Read the transcript: https://biblioasia.nlb.gov.sg/all-sections/podcast-a-layered-stewed-sweetness-jackfruit-payasam-made-local
Watch Dhershini make jackfruit payasam: https://biblioasia.nlb.gov.sg/all-sections/video-jackfruit-payasam
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This episode of BiblioAsia Podcast was hosted by Jimmy Yap and produced by Soh Gek Han. Sound engineering was done by Nookcha Films. The background music “Di Tanjong Katong” was composed by Ahmad Patek and performed by Chords Haven. Special thanks to Dhershini for coming on the show.
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