Pay yourself first, even if it's fifty dollars a gig.

Keyboard player and producer David Yuter and hip-hop artist Raymond Harper join me for a candid conversation about musicians and money: learning to say no, writing something every day, why finances feel like such a touchy subject, and the simple habit of paying yourself before anyone else.

A note before you listen: this conversation was recorded in 2021. Part of it covers investing ideas the guests were excited about at the time, and a lot has changed since. Nothing in this episode is financial advice.

🎧 In this episode

  • You don't always have to be the yes guy.
  • Write something every day, even a single line, or the idea is gone.
  • Pay yourself first: a small, automatic “life tax” on every gig.
  • Musicians can make a great living. Start by believing it's possible.


About David Yuter & Raymond Harper

David Yuter is a San Diego keyboard player and producer who plays upwards of 150 shows a year and works in artist development. Raymond Harper is a hip-hop artist and songwriter from Detroit, an Army veteran now living in Los Angeles.

Moments worth your time

  • 02:16 — From Detroit lunch tables to the Army to Hollywood
  • 03:15 — Learning not to be the yes guy
  • 07:24 — Write something every single day
  • 09:55 — Why money feels like a touchy subject
  • 35:27 — Yes, musicians can make a great living
  • 39:15 — The life tax: paying yourself first
  • 1:00:27 — Parting words: it's all a mindset


“If you get $300 for a gig, take $50 and put it in this side account.” — David Yuter

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