He married four women, kept a secret girlfriend a town over from wife number two, and still cried his way into playing the victim. Then wife number one picked up the phone and called wife number two.

This week, Mac and Phil sit down with Dina and Lizzie, the Matadoras behind the podcast Surviving Toxic Relationships, two women who were married to the same narcissist and became best friends because of it.

🏍️ Two very different love bombings: a 19 year old in a light blue tux walking over to Dina’s KFC job, and a man who took over Lizzie’s grocery runs for her four boys
⛪ How he faked vulnerability at church, cried through worship songs, and used couples counseling to turn himself into the victim
😭 The sobbing childhood trauma story he told Dina, and what he admitted about it later
📖 The phone book incident Dina walked in on, and the “friendly pervert” confession that followed
💸 Locked out of the phone account, cut off from credit cards, and handed $20 for a whole weekend before Lizzie walked out
📱 The Facebook message and phone call that told his secret girlfriend Lizzie existed, and the red coat he said an old lady gave her
🚔 What she did next: a lawyer by Sunday, cops and a restraining order waiting Monday, and an annulment filed for fraud
💍 The woman he married two months later in another state, and the 27 women on his phone

This one is wild, ridiculous, and funny in the way only survivors can be, and proof that two women who could have been enemies became each other’s biggest win.

⚖️ Disclaimer (because our lawyers make us say this): Dimming The Gaslight is based entirely on true events, except for the stuff we totally made up. Names, locations, and other identifying details have been changed. If you think we’re talking about you in this podcast, newsflash, you’re the narcissist.

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