In this episode of the Elite Financial Advisor Podcast, Sten Morgan, CFP®, ChFC®, sits down with two of the most thoughtful voices in the profession - Carl Richards, CFP®, creator of the Sketch Guy column and founder of The Society of Advice, and Steve Sanduski, CFP®, founder of Belay Advisor and host of the Between Now and Success podcast - to war-game how financial advice will change over the next ten years.

They dig into the two layers of every advisory practice: the execution layer that AI is rapidly automating, and the human layer it cannot touch. As the technical work becomes table stakes, the floor for what counts as a great advisor rises, and Carl and Steve make the case that the future advisor has to be bilingual: fluent in money and fluent in humans.

They also get practical about where the business is headed - whether AUM and commission comp survive, why clients pay for trust and outcomes rather than process, and how a young advisor can intentionally build the craft of curiosity instead of waiting for life to humble them.

As Carl puts it: "AI is not a threat. It is a reminder of the deeply human work we do."


In This Episode

  • Every practice has two layers: the execution layer AI is automating, and the human layer it cannot. The human layer is where advisors win.
  • The floor is rising. A great financial plan is becoming table stakes; the EQ to sit with clients in their hardest moments is the real edge.
  • Be bilingual. Major in money and major in humans. The messy intersection of the two is where the value lives.
  • Greet clients at the "presenting problem" with empathy, then watch for the "crunchy bits" that open the door to deeper work.
  • The way you get paid tells a story. If any part of it is something you would not be comfortable explaining to a client's face, change it.


Episode Timestamps

00:00 - Introduction: sailing, motorcycles, and catching up

04:30 - The war game: what should advisors be ready for?

05:45 - Carl: the deeply human craft AI is pointing us back to

09:00 - Steve: the execution layer versus the human layer

11:00 - Will AI actually increase an advisor's capacity?

13:00 - Advice to the next generation of advisors

16:00 - Be bilingual: major in money and major in humans

19:00 - Why life planning is a small market at any given moment

20:30 - Greet clients at the presenting problem

23:30 - Will AUM and insurance comp survive?

29:00 - Carl: the way you get paid tells a story

31:20 - From stockbrokers to goal-based planning

35:00 - Process versus outcome in the age of AI

38:40 - You cannot market trust, you can only build it

43:30 - A practical path to the craft of curiosity

48:00 - What has these two most excited right now


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