Kilian Korth joins Nicky to talk about winning the Triple Crown of 200s, what separates a 50-miler from a 100 or 200, and the parts of ultrarunning you simply can’t prepare for in training. He gets into second-night hallucinations, dirt naps, learning to ride the highs and lows of an ultra, and why you might actually feel better at mile 90 than you did at mile 70.

Kilian also opens up about the ankle injury and surgery that completely changed his plans for this year, finding purpose when running was taken away, meditation, cross-training, and trying to build an identity that isn’t entirely tied to running. Plus, he and Nicky talk about becoming a parent, healthy skepticism, changing your mind, and why some of life’s hardest lessons only make sense once you’ve lived them.

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