Recorded while cruising through the icy, surreal landscape of Antarctica, Psychiatrist Dr. Rachel Yehuda, a pioneering researcher of intergenerational trauma and Director of The Parsons Research Center for Psychedelic Healing at Mount Sinai, joins Alli Schaper, Founder of SuperMush, for a deep dive into the invisible threads connecting us to our past.
Rachel shares the unexpected beginnings of her groundbreaking research with Holocaust survivors and their children, revealing how trauma can echo across generations, not just in our stories but in our biology. She reminds us that the history we carry shapes us, but it doesn’t have to define us.
Together, Rachel and Alli dive into:
- The Science of Survival: How epigenetics helps explain why trauma “sticks,” and how inherited stress responses may be adaptive signals from the past.
- Psychedelics & Memory: Why altered states can help us safely revisit “filed away” memories and reshape them into stories of resilience.
- Grief & Transformation: Alli shares a personal story about her mother’s psilocybin journey, opening a heartfelt conversation about metabolizing grief and rethinking our relationship with death.
- A New Mental Health Paradigm: Rachel’s vision for moving beyond symptom management toward deeper healing through altered states, insight, and human connection.
And so mush more!
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TIMESTAMPS:
0:54 Podcast Intro
1:23 Introducing Dr. Rachel Yehuda and Her Research
3:05 Rachel’s Research Origins: Studying Trauma in Holocaust Survivors and Their Children
8:11 Intergenerational Transmission: Applying Science to Ancient Wisdom
14:40 The Role of Psychedelics in Healing Intergenerational Trauma
17:20 "Finding" Memories: How Psychedelics Aid in Processing the Past
21:20 Alli’s Personal Story: Using Psilocybin to Process the Concept of Death
23:40 Metabolizing Loss: How Psychedelic Therapy Helps Navigate Grief
29:25 Deep Dive into Biological Markers and Future Research Methods
33:15 Shifting the Mental Health Paradigm: A Vision for Psychedelics and Humanity
40:05 Beyond Suppression: The Future of Mental Health Care and Healing
43:52 Embracing Nonlinear Healing and the Value of the "Altered State"
46:20 Lessons from Psychedelics: Connection and the Power of Hope
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Dr. Rachel Yehuda: https://www.instagram.com/rachelyehudaphd/
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