In this week’s episode, Pastor Julie sits down with pastor, author, leader, and friend of the podcast Holly Wagner for a conversation that is equal parts wisdom, laughter, and real talk about resilience. Julie and Holly swap stories—from awkward early church planting days to Holly’s journey into an unexpected hobby…karate! Along the way, Holly shares honestly what it looks like to keep showing up when life gets hard. It’s the kind of conversation that will make you laugh, nod your head in agreement, and walk away feeling both encouraged and challenged to stay the course. 💛
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