This week, Erin and Sara sit down with behavioral investigator and bestselling author Vanessa Van Edwards to figure out why talking to people can feel so hard. They discuss how to skip the awkward small talk, why playing it cool can actually backfire, the secret to making people feel instantly connected to you, and simple ways to stop overthinking every social interaction.


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