Have you ever worked with someone who just didn't get you, not because they were difficult, but because you were wired completely differently? In this episode, Lori sits down with Enneagram expert Joey Schewee to unpack why understanding motivation, not just behavior, is what actually transforms how teams work together.
Joey has spent decades helping thousands of employees and hundreds of teams understand each other through the Enneagram, and her new book, When Working Together Doesn't Work, distills that experience into a practical workplace guide. She and Lori dig into why so many people mistype themselves at work, why "culture fit" hiring can quietly push out your most brilliant thinkers, and how managers can stop putting people in boxes and start understanding what actually drives them.
In this episode:
Why the Enneagram explains the why behind behavior, not just the what, and why that matters more in stress and change
The three "stances" at work (independent, dependent, withdrawing) and what each one needs to perform at its best: consistency, affirmation, or latitude
Why fives and eights often get labeled "not a culture fit," and what that costs organizations
How mistyping happens at work, and why so many people test as eights, ones, or threes simply because they're "doing" at the time
Practical language for managers to use type-awareness without putting anyone in a box
About Joey Schewee: Joey Stabile Schewee is a management consultant, executive coach, and author of When Working Together Doesn't Work: An Enneagram Guide to Productive Relationships with Coworkers. She's spent 17+ years consulting with corporate teams, drawing on a lifetime immersed in Enneagram wisdom.
Timestamps:
00:00 – Introduction and why motivation matters more than behavior
04:00 – How the Enneagram functions in teams and organizations
09:00 – Mistyping at work and the "boxes" myth
17:00 – A real-world example: culture in family-owned companies
25:00 – Where leaders get alignment wrong
31:00 – Coaching managers to engage direct reports by type
37:00 – New concepts: stances, reference points, and what each needs to thrive
46:00 – Where to find Joey and her book
Find Joey Schewee at: wesolutions.life | linkedin.com/in/joeyschewee | Instagram: @enneagramparents | Book: When Working Together Doesn't Work
Join us for an exclusive where Joey gets personal about her own career journey and Enneagram discovery on Patreon.
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