In this return appearance on No Way, Jose!, host Jose Galison welcomes back Basil of the Basil & Benny Show for a conversation that brings their earlier exchange full circle. The two first connected after Galison’s conflict with Darryl Cooper, and Basil has since drawn attention for raising similar objections. They discuss how certain figures deflect substantive criticism by focusing on more childish attacks, such as those associated with James Lindsay, while covering the recent National Conservatism conference in Jerusalem led by dual Israeli-American citizen Yoram Hazony. The episode examines the Groypers and Nick Fuentes’ exposure of Zionist subversion within nationalist circles, questions of media market literacy, patronage networks, and the direction of a Peter Thiel-aligned technocratic project.
The pairing is distinctive because Galison approaches the topics as a libertarian while Basil comes from a more Groyper perspective, allowing them to jointly push back on the Vance-Thiel agenda being sold under a libertarian, dissident-right, or Groyper aesthetic. They highlight how this framework has little to do with free markets given the dominant role of defense contractors and government influence, and they specifically note the inversion in the BAP sphere’s supposed Nietzschean philosophy—an approach that fails to follow through on its own terms and comes off as pathetic.
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