Dave Chang and Chris Ying rewatch 'The Founder' (2016). The McDonald's origin story sends them headfirst down a rabbit hole of self-examination. Are they artistic purists or capitalist pigs? Is it too late to change their ways? How many McDonald's cheeseburgers can two men eat in one podcast?

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Hosts: David Chang, Chris Ying

Producers: Jesse Aron, Magdalena Munao

Producer/Editor: Michael Rozvar

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