When I first interviewed mindfulness expert Micki Fine on People-Pleasing, it quickly became one of our most listened to podcast episodes! She's back, this time talking about finding Unshakable Equanimity in the midst of the inevitable storms of life and relationships. We explore how to work with our human nature to get pulled off center and push against things in life that we don't want (or grasp at things we do!), how to cultivate soft, wise, resilience in these difficult moments, and the surprising ways it makes our relationships better when we do.

Micki is the founder of Mindful Living, offering certified Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction instruction through her private practice, Rice University, MD Anderson and the Jung Center. She is author of The Need to Please: Mindfulness Skills to Gain Freedom from People Pleasing and Approval Seeking and her children's book May All People and Pigs Be Happy. Her new course Equanimity: Greeting the Moment Wholeheartedly begins soon.

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