Can someone spend 14Β½ years behind bars and learn something about freedom that many of us never notice on the outside?
In this episode of the Super Entrepreneurs Podcast, Shahid Durrani sits down with Fleet Maull, founder of Heart Mind Institute and author of Radical Responsibility, for a thoughtful conversation about the invisible prisons we carry within ourselves.
Fleet entered federal prison facing a 30-year sentence, which was later reduced. He shares how being separated from his young son changed his approach to responsibility, meditation, and service. While incarcerated, he helped establish a prison hospice program and developed the foundation for his later work in mindfulness.
Together, Shahid and Fleet explore how childhood conditioning influences our reactions, why self-compassion is essential to personal responsibility, and how learning to regulate our nervous system can help us respond more consciously.
Fleet also shares practical breathing techniques and explains why entrepreneurs need to care for their health and relationships alongside their business results.
It's a conversation about freedom, leadership, and what becomes possible when we pay attention to how we're living, not just what we're achieving.
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Chapter Stamps
00:00 β Introduction to Fleet Maull
00:53 β Building Heart Mind Institute and the Mission to Reach One Billion People
03:13 β Innate Goodness, Self-Regulation, and Human Connection
07:38 β Facing a 30-Year Prison Sentence and Finding a New Purpose
12:23 β What Rabbits and Birds Taught Fleet About Internal Freedom
15:32 β How Radical Responsibility Was Born Behind Bars
17:22 β Meditation, Facing Pain, and Learning to Live in the Present
21:02 β Transformation Through Meditation, Teaching, and Prison Hospice Work
26:08 β Why Responsibility Must Begin With Self-Compassion
28:58 β The Question That Shifts Us From Helplessness to Possibility
31:46 β Finding the Humanity in Others, Even When You Have No Power
36:38 β How Childhood Conditioning Creates Invisible Prisons
38:41 β Understanding the Nervous System and Emotional Reactions
41:04 β Practical Breathing Techniques to Regulate Stress
46:46 β Developing the Witness Mind Through Self-Awareness
47:44 β Neuro-Somatic Mindfulness and Why Positive Thinking Isn't Enough
48:37 β Radical Responsibility Without Blame or Shame
51:41 β Why Mindfulness Can Work Across Different Faiths and Beliefs
54:43 β How Entrepreneurs Can Succeed in Business Without Sacrificing Life
56:09 β A Simple Place to Begin: Take a Deep Breath
Guest Pullouts:
"I really had the insight that for me the prison thing is really a state of mind."
"Because if we don't have that self-compassion, we try to embrace that level of ownership, it also triggers us into self-blaming and self-shaming, right?"
"Everybody's got a human being button."
"The power of that is that from the witness mind, you can choose how to respond to the content of your life rather than being lost in it."
"It has nothing to do with self-blame. It has nothing to do with blaming others. Obviously, it has nothing to do with blaming victims."
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