Fame vs. Attention: Building a More Commercial Personal Brand with Alex Stewart

Is “fame” actually the problem—or is it just the word that makes people uncomfortable? Alex Stewart is back with me for a very unserious-serious conversation about fame, attention, impact, personal branding, and why the language you use can completely change how people perceive your work.

We get into:

* fame vs. attention and why the words we use change people’s perception

* how to make your personal brand more commercially appealing without watering down what makes it interesting

* Mormonism, creativity, achievement, and why Utah produces so many artists and performers

* pop culture, celebrity conspiracy theories, and my truly concerning lack of movie knowledge

* Lucille Ball, *I Love Lucy*, creative innovation, and betting on your own ideas when gatekeepers say no

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