What does it actually take to build a lasting creative career in Hollywood? I sit down with Cinco Paul, the writer behind Despicable Me, The Lorax, Horton Hears a Who, and Schmigadoon, to talk about the career highs, failures, big breaks, and creative risks that shaped his path from aspiring songwriter to successful screenwriter and showrunner.

In this episode, Cinco Paul and I talk about:

how Despicable Me became a massive success—and why you can never predict what audiences will love

why chasing trends can make your work less impactful

taking Schmigadoon from an idea he held onto for 25 years to a TV series and Broadway musical

dealing with rejection, career setbacks, and creative self-doubt even after you've found success

his advice for screenwriters, showrunners, and creatives trying to break into Hollywood

We also talk about social media, taking feedback without losing your creative vision, pitching yourself in Hollywood, and why your screenplay isn't your ticket to success—you are.

Go see Schmigadoon on Broadway.

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