Chris E.W. Green joins Jason for a rich conversation about the goodness of God, the beauty of our humanity, and the healing love revealed in Jesus. Together, they explore how bad theology can contradict what our hearts already know, why sin is better understood through the lens of sickness and healing than punishment and shame, and what it means to be made in the image of the One who heals the world. Chris also reflects on mystery, certainty, prayer, suffering, and the difference between optimism and genuine hope—a hope rooted not in where the world appears to be heading, but in the unchanging goodness of God.



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