Welcome to this extra episode of the Leaders in Finance Podcast, recorded live after the Leaders in Finance AML Event 2026 at Pakhuis de Zwijger in Amsterdam.
Host Tom van Disseldorp is joined by Marinos Berger (Senior Solutions Lead Fraud & Compliance at SAS), Oliver Bullough (journalist and author), Daniel Orchard (EMEA KYC & Onboarding Specialist at NICE Actimize), Vincent Gaudel (Financial Crime Compliance Expert at LexisNexis Risk Solutions), and Guido Penzhorn (Partner at Deloitte) to reflect on the fight against money laundering and financial crime.
After years of regulation, investment and technological development, why are we still discussing the same challenges? Can AI fundamentally improve investigations while criminals are using the same tools? And how do we measure whether AML efforts actually make a difference?
The guests explore the gap between compliance and effectiveness, the need for cross-border information sharing, and the importance of data quality and feedback from FIUs and law enforcement. They also discuss the human cost of financial exclusion and why closing alerts or filing reports tells us little about the criminal networks disrupted or victims protected.
Their challenge to the sector: move from proving how hard we work to understanding what actually works.
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Eerdere gasten bij de Leaders in Finance podcast waren onder andere: Klaas Knot (President DNB), Frank Elderson (Directie ECB), Roland Boekhout (CEO de Volksbank), Gerrit Zalm (Voormalig minister van Financiën en voormalig CEO ABN AMRO), Ingrid de Swart (Lid Raad van Bestuur a.s.r.), Pinar Abay (Management Board ING, Head of Retail Banking), Robert Swaak (CEO ABN AMRO), Marcel Zuidam (CEO NN Bank), Saul van Beurden (CEO Consumer, Small & Business Banking, Wells Fargo), David Knibbe (CEO NN Group), Janine Vos (RvB Rabobank), Nadine Klokke (CEO Knab), Maarten Edixhoven (CEO Van Lanschot Kempen), Jeroen Rijpkema (CEO Triodos Bank), Nout Wellink (Voormalig President DNB), Onno Ruding (Voormalig minister van Financiën), Yoram Schwarz (CEO Movir), Laura van Geest (Bestuursvoorzitter AFM), Katja Kok (CEO Van Lanschot CH), Ali Niknam (CEO bunq), Nick Bortot (CEO BUX), Petri Hofsté (Commissaris o.a. Rabobank en Achmea), Peter Paul de Vries (CEO Value8), Barbara Baarsma (CEO Rabo Carbon Bank), Jan van Rutte (Commissaris PGGM, BNG Bank; voormalig CFO ABN AMRO), Marguerite Soeteman-Reijne (Chair Aon Holdings), Lidwin van Velden (CEO Nederlandse Waterschapsbank), Jan-Willem van der Schoot (CEO Mastercard NL), Joanne Kellermann (Chair PFZW), Steven Maijoor (Voormalig Chair ESMA), Radboud Vlaar (CEO Finch Capital), Jos Baeten (CEO a.s.r.), Karin van Baardwijk (CEO Robeco), Annette Mosman (CEO APG).
