Feeling like data collection is eating up all your therapy time? In this episode, Hallie sits down with Michele Rothstein of SLP Madness, a 26-year elementary school-based SLP, to talk all about how to make data collection clean, efficient, and legally defensible. Michele shares her 3:1 treatment-to-probe ratio, how she handles Medicaid billing without sacrificing real therapy time, and why she believes data is her favorite four-letter word.



Bullet Points to Discuss: 

  • The difference between therapy charting and true data collection 
  • Why testing your students every session isn't the same as teaching them 
  • Using a 3:1 ratio: three weeks of treatment, one week of progress monitoring 
  • How to report Medicaid billing data on non-probe weeks 
  • Building and organizing probes so they're ready for IEP season 
  • Handling inherited IEP goals you don't agree with or understand 



Here’s what we learned: 

  • Data collection and therapy charting are not the same thing 
  • Consistent stimuli each time you probe is what makes data legally defensible 
  • An IEP is a blueprint, not a complete list of everything you're targeting 
  • Honesty about inherited goals builds trust with families and teams 
  • Starting small with one student or goal is the key to sticking with a new system



Learn more about Michele Rothstein: 

Website: https://www.slpmadness.com/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/slp.madness/ 

LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/michele-rothstein-slpmadness 

Teachers Pay Teachers: https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/store/slp-madness 

How to Collect Data Without Stopping Therapy



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