On today’s page, ⁠Chullin 84, the rabbis continue their discussion of the laws surrounding food and sustenance. Recorded around a barbecue table in upstate New York, this special summer episode with Rabbi Dovid Bashevkin and producer Josh Kross reflects on Tisha B’Av, exploring the destruction of the Temples, the enduring lesson of Kamtza and Bar Kamtza, and why the ultimate redemption of the Jewish people remains incomplete. What are we really mourning on Tisha B’Av? Listen and find out.

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