Charisma. Some people seem to walk into a room and just have it. People lean in, listen, remember them, and want more time with them. And for those of us who are introverts? Well, it can be easy to assume we were simply left out of the charisma lottery.

But what if charisma isn’t something we’re born with? What if it’s something we can actually learn?

In this episode, Nicole sits down with Olivia Fox Cabane, one of the world’s leading authorities on the science of charisma and bestselling author of The Charisma Myth. Olivia has taught and lectured at Stanford, Harvard, Yale, MIT, and the United Nations and has worked with leaders at companies including Google, Deloitte, TikTok, and Airbnb.

They discuss:

Why charisma is different from charm and likability

The science showing that charisma can actually be learned

Why there isn’t one “right” kind of charisma

The potential downsides of becoming more charismatic

Why introverts may have a major charisma advantage

The three components of charisma: presence, power, and warmth

Why self-criticism makes it harder to stay present and connected

How instant self-forgiveness can help us recover from awkward moments

Why mistakes can actually make us more relatable

Why taking up space matters when communicating power

How vocal patterns like uptalk can affect perceived authority and credibility

The difference between being nice and being kind

Why the harsher the message, the warmer the delivery should be

How intent and impact can help distinguish influence from harmful manipulation

How charisma can exist without likability

Why learning charisma doesn’t require becoming someone else

The goal isn’t to walk into a room and make everyone think, Wow, she’s charismatic. It’s to stop borrowing somebody else’s magnetism and start trusting our own.

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Connect with Olivia:

Website: https://www.oliviafoxcabane.com/ 

Book: https://www.charismamyth.com/ 

LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ofc/ 

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