Michelle has spent the last two years interviewing incredible women on the She Who Dares Wins podcast, but today she steps behind the mic solo for the Season 4 finale. After spending a decade navigating the chaotic, male-dominated world of construction as a freelance engineer—while simultaneously juggling side hustles like filmmaking, a plumbing chemical business, and a clothing line—she thought she was just naturally wired for chaos.
But a life of extreme chaos isn't without its mental hurdles. From masking her emotions as a child to living constantly in a "fight or flight" mode to survive moving from project to project, she was unknowingly chasing dopamine. After facing severe burnout that landed her in the hospital and navigating the intense imposter syndrome of quitting her safety-net job to go full-time with her podcast, she realized she could no longer ignore her struggles. Just two weeks ago, she received an official ADHD diagnosis, a revelation that is incredibly common for women in their 40s experiencing hormonal shifts.
Now, she is laying it all out there. It is a deeply personal account of her time in construction, the exhausting reality of masking, and how what many label an "ADHD superpower" can actually be the exact thing driving you to absolute burnout. It takes listeners on a journey into why our brains chase shiny new objects, the reality of double-checking everything out of a paralyzing fear of failure, and the immense relief of finally understanding how your mind works.
In this episode, we delve into Michelle's official diagnosis and what it has taught her. We discuss her transition from film school to a construction site, how she navigated being the only woman on the job, the moment she realized she was burning out, and the exciting new "doubting to daring" format launching in Season 5.
✨ IN THIS EPISODE:
00:00 Introduction to the Season 4 Finale and a personal update
04:15 Childhood masking and surviving school as the "funny one"
10:30 Film school in LA to surviving a baptism of fire in construction
16:45 Chasing dopamine: side hustles, chemical businesses, and fight-or-flight mode
23:20 The reality of being the only female engineer on site and battling imposter syndrome
30:10 Navigating motherhood, severe burnout, and the hospital visit that changed everything
34:50 Sacking the safety net, going all-in on the podcast, and facing self-doubt
39:15 The assessment process and the profound relief of a late ADHD diagnosis
45:30 What’s next: Season 5, Dare Club, and moving from "doubting to daring"
💬 QUOTES TO REMEMBER:
On the exhaustion of the "superpower" myth: "I was in fight or flight mode for the majority of my career... People are always like, 'Yeah, it's a superpower. It's amazing.' It can be, but it also can get you to this point where you are absolutely exhausted and burnt out."
On the relief of an official diagnosis: "The things that you have beaten yourself up about over the years and made a joke of, made light of, is actually something that is not really coped with well in society... Somebody to tell you that your brain works differently and you just have this sense of relief of like, Okay."
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Jenny - our deep dive into the realities of ADHD, Autism, and understanding neurodivergence: here
Amanda Perry - discusses unlocking ADHD in business, survival, and triumph: here
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