What if the trait you thought made you strong is the very thing holding your growth back?

Chris Thomson welcomes back Phil Lombardo, a Student Works veteran who went from a $125,000 rookie business to coaching a $4.4 million team, and who is now stepping into a role helping run a $50 million company.

Phil opens up about the ego that once held him back, why your minimum acceptable standard matters more than your goals, and the daily discipline of negotiating with yourself less.

If you have ever wondered what actually separates the people who keep leveling up from the ones who stall, this conversation is your blueprint. Listen now.

Timestamped Highlights

  • 02:52 – Who Phil was before the program: YMCA shifts and a gap year of 60-hour minimum-wage weeks
  • 04:27 – The referral that got him in, and the info-session moment that lit up the phone
  • 05:59 – The biggest surprise of a first-year run during COVID
  • 06:41 – The ego realization that changed how he ran his business
  • 11:05 – Why your minimum acceptable standard matters more than the goals you set
  • 13:53 – The one thing top performers negotiate away far less than everyone else
  • 16:09 – The call where Luke first saw Phil as a future coach
  • 19:28 – Going from a $125K business to a $4.4 million coaching team
  • 20:33 – "Everyone can always see you": the accountability truth most people miss
  • 30:11 – Inside the new role and the push to double a $50 million company
  • 35:29 – The light-side, dark-side exercise behind Most Accountable Coach
  • 44:53 – What a real leader of tomorrow actually is, in Phil’s words


About the Guest

Phil Lombardo is a Student Works Management Program veteran stepping into his eighth year, a four-time Mexico-level operator who built roughly $800,000 in the field before moving into coaching. As a coach, he was named top mini coach, top rookie coach, and Most Accountable Coach, leading a team to $4.4 million this year and reaching about $9 million in all-time coaching revenue. He is now stepping into a company-wide role focused on operations, training, and curriculum, AI initiatives, safety, and field support as Student Works pushes to double its business.

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The Leaders of Tomorrow Podcast is an original production by Chris Thomson. Production and editing by Podcast Your Brand.

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