What if your exhaustion isn't a personal weakness, but a sign you're working in a system that quietly burns through its people - especially women? In this powerful conversation, Karen talks with Dr. Consuelo Grier, a mother and higher-ed leader whose life brought her to the edge of burnout and into the deeper truth of burn through: what happens when institutions use us up faster than we can restore ourselves.

Together they explore:

  • The crucial difference between burnout and burn through

  • How leaders can build rest into the structure of work

  • Simple, practical ways to protect your own rest before you're in chronic depletion mode

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