Suzy Batiz built an empire, lost it twice, rebuilt it a third time — and last year, she almost lost it all again. This time, the fight wasn't legal. It was spiritual.

Suzy Batiz is the founder of Poo-Pourri, a bankruptcy-to-billion-dollar entrepreneur, and the creator of a new app called Supernatural, designed to help people uncover their life's purpose through the meaning of their name. Her new podcast, Holy Shit, launches this month.

In this episode, Suzy opens up — for only the second time publicly — about the moment a lender tried to force her out of her own company through a forbearance agreement that would have cost her the business, her voice, and her right to fight back. She walks through the 14-hour spiritual reckoning that led her to refuse to sign, the surprising reason the lender backed down, and why she ultimately chose not to sue for the tens of millions she was owed. Along the way, she and Matt dig into childhood trauma, the false stories we tell ourselves about God, the real meaning behind their names, and why she believes the obsession with "self" — self-development, self-healing, self-actualization — might be the very thing keeping people stuck.

In this episode, you'll learn:

  • Why Suzy believes chasing specific goals can actually limit what's possible for your life
  • The real story behind the forbearance agreement that almost cost her everything — and the 14-hour spiritual standoff that changed her mind
  • Why she chose not to sue for $30–50 million, even after winning
  • How the meaning behind her birth name shaped her entire career, without her realizing it
  • The difference between "doing" your purpose and simply "being" it
  • Why she believes narcissism is rooted in unhealed pain, not ego
  • How studying the original Hebrew and Greek meanings of scripture changed the way she reads the Bible
  • Why "look up" is the one piece of advice she wants to be remembered for

If you've ever built your identity around self-reliance and found yourself asking "is this really it?" — this conversation will meet you exactly where you are.

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