This episode is the second part of a conversation between Vanessa and Looby Macnamara, author, permaculture designer, gardener, song leader, and artist from Herefordshire, United Kingdom. They discuss Looby's latest book, "Design Adventures: Discover a Creative Framework for Effective Change", and how weaving this playful design methodology into daily life can awaken, invigorate, and empower individuals and communities. Tune into Living Permaculture on KDNK.org the third Monday of each month at 4pm.

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