Parent Driven Development

66: Finding a new job during the pandemic.

Welcome, Jean Hsu!

Jean Hsu is a writer, coach, and software engineer turned leadership coach after working for a decade in Silicon Valley. She is the VP of engineering at Range Labs and Co-founder of Co Leadership, which focuses on filling the gaps in leadership development in the tech industry. Jean doesn’t miss writing code, but she does miss deleting it.

0:53 Finding a new job during the pandemic

Desire strikes for leadership

The hiring process

5:20 How did the pandemic change your thought process

Intentionality of specific desires - management, leadership, flexibility

Enjoying the journey rather than letting comparison or stress take over

7:30 What would Jean do differently now?

Finding ways to lean into async communication with a remote team in different time zones, while keeping the team engaged and connected with each other

Hybrid mix of in-person and remote is the future for companies

13:13 Pre-pandemic commute tales

Feels like a different lifetime

15:40 New expectations for Range during the pandemic

Getting rid of the 9-5; windowed work with colored labels

Core hours for team meetings

Setting boundaries

19:40 Genius and fail moments

KWu closed her son’s fingers between a door hinge… #fail

Allison’s daughter turns 3 and shines at her yearly doctor's appointment. #genius

Jean downloaded TikTok and discovered the best parenting hack to tell your kids to do a task, rather than ask. #genius

Chris brings back his daughter's love of Star Wars. #genius

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Chris Sexton

Special Guest: Jean Hsu.

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