What if the steps that saved millions of lives were never really about religion at all, but about the same science therapists use in their offices every day?

 

Today I sit down with Dr. Dice for round two. He's a former paramedic, firefighter and Navy SEAL who blew up his life, landed in treatment, got sober through 12-step recovery, and then went all the way back to school for his PhD so he could do for others what his therapist did for him. In his doctoral research at Old Dominion University, he pulled out the theory hiding inside the 12 steps, and what he found is something he calls the holistic change model. Before we get there, he tells me how he survived BUD/S training twice after a shoulder surgery a Navy doctor said no one had ever come back from, and the rope bridge moment that ended Hell Week for his entire class.

 

This conversation is for anyone who has ever said "that sounds like a cult" and walked away from 12-step, and for anyone who loves someone like that.

 

In this episode, you'll learn:

• What emotional compulsivity is, and why drinking is often just the latest tool in a lifelong pattern

• How steps one through twelve line up with stages of change, narrative therapy, CBT and existential therapy

• Why seeing yourself as a character in your own story is the beginning of self-love

• The difference between white knuckle sobriety and a program that takes you from surviving to thriving

• How online meetings opened the door for people who are afraid of being recognized

So without further delay, please enjoy this episode, and let me know what you think!



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Guest Website: https://bishopdicedefense.com/

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