When you hear “executive presence,” do you picture someone walking into a boardroom looking polished, confident, and completely certain of what to say?
My guest, Mary E. Maloney, sees it differently.
Executive presence matters most when you’re in the middle of a high-stakes identity shift, such as after a promotion, a career change, the sale of a business, a retirement, or an unexpected ending.
Mary calls that in-between space the Keystone Gap: your old identity no longer fits, but the new one hasn’t fully locked into place.
In this conversation, Mary explains why the real issue in that gap usually isn’t a lack of confidence. It’s a lack of clarity.
Mary shares her Five C’s of Identity Shift, the year she struggled to explain who she was without her CEO title, and the boss who pushed her onto a stage before she believed she was ready.
In this episode, Mary and I talk about:
- What executive presence means during a high-stakes transition
- Why identity is the hidden architecture beneath career and leadership changes
- The Keystone Gap between releasing an old identity and building a new one
- Why rushing through an identity shift can make the transition harder
- Mary’s Five C’s of Identity Shift
- The difference between needing more confidence and needing more clarity
- How purpose, impact, and your standards for showing up strengthen executive presence
- What Mary learned after selling her company and taking a year away
- How a reluctant first speech changed the trajectory of her career
- Why authentic stories and knowing your audience matter on stage
About Our Guest: Mary E. Maloney, FACHE, is a former CEO/CMO turned Master Facilitator who guides senior leaders through high-stakes transitions, helping them clarify and articulate the identity, purpose, and value that will define their next act. Through her signature two-call Brand Declaration® process, she helps leaders sift through decades of experience to name the recurring themes of their value in minutes rather than months. She works with C-suite executives, physician leaders, military officers, founders, and board-level talent through online courses, mastermind cohorts, and 1:1 inplacement/outplacement executive advisory work, and facilitates leadership and strategy retreats for enterprise teams navigating complex change.
About Us: The Speaking Your Brand podcast is hosted by Carol Cox. At Speaking Your Brand, we help women entrepreneurs and professionals clarify their brand message and story, create their signature talks, and develop their thought leadership platforms. Our mission is to get more women in positions of influence and power because it's through women's stories, voices, and visibility that we challenge the status quo and change existing systems. Check out our coaching programs at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com.
Links:
Show notes at https://www.speakingyourbrand.com/484/
Mary’s website: https://revealinggenius.com/
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