How can you make work work for your team? Kevin sits down with Natalia Emanuel and Emma Harrington to discuss what research reveals about in-person, remote, and hybrid work and why the best answer is rarely one-size-fits-all. They talk about the "proximity effect" and how face-to-face interaction can strengthen creativity, collaboration, and well-being, while also acknowledging the flexibility and accessibility benefits of remote work. Natalia and Emma explain why simply requiring people to come into an office isn't enough; leaders need to coordinate when teams are together and intentionally use that time for brainstorming, mentorship, and other activities that benefit from human connection. They also share practical ways to improve virtual collaboration, including creating permission to look away from the screen and move
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Website: https://inpersonbook.com/
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Timestamps
0:00 Where should people work?
1:48 Meet Natalia Emanuel and Emma Harrington
3:41 Why they wrote In Person
5:22 The big idea: digital tools shrink our networks
6:57 The proximity effect
8:36 Where organizations get the remote work debate wrong
11:09 Walking, creativity, and looking away from the screen
15:58 The trouble with hybrid meetings
16:57 The case for in-person: how Shark Week was born
19:56 Remote work and mental health
22:11 It takes 160 hours to make a friend
22:48 The under-discussed case for remote work
24:54 How to make in-person days actually different
28:29 One piece of advice for frontline leaders
32:19 What they're reading
34:14 Where to learn more (and the in-office days calculator)
34:50 Now what?
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