Kṛṣṇa says in the Bhagavad-gītā(8.16),"ā-brahma-bhuvanāl lokāḥ
punar āvartino ’rjuna." You don't want to stay here because it doesn't matter where you are in the material world—high, low, middle—it's all bad categorically. You can just assume that.
But if you can change your consciousness, this is a very important part according to our International Society for Kṛṣṇa Consciousness, then, Kṛṣṇa says in the beginning of the eighth chapter that you can point yourself towards the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Or when you leave this body, be ready to completely leave the categorically inconvenient material world and go back home, back to Godhead.
In the ninth chapter, He says (BG 9.25):
yānti deva-vratā devān
pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ |
bhūtāni yānti bhūtejyā
yānti mad-yājino ’pi mām ||
Which basically means: You have free will. Use it. Chop, chop, little jīva. Let's go. Get out of here. The place is condemned. Just get out. Go, back to Godhead. And then, very specifically, He says: "anta-kāle ca mām eva smaran muktvā kalevaram." That if at the end (anta-kāle) you remember Me, then you'll directly come to Me. And then He says (BG 8.6):
yaṁ yaṁ vāpi smaran bhāvaṁ
tyajaty ante kalevaram |
taṁ tam evaiti kaunteya
sadā tad-bhāva-bhāvitaḥ ||
If you get entangled in some other kind of consciousness, that's where you're going to end up. So He's not a religious fanatic. Kṛṣṇa is just telling: Here is how it works. Here is where you are. Here's the context. Now, use it. Figure it out for yourself.
And similarly, the people walking around London—I was observing them as we were driving in here. They're walking all at the same pace. This is morning pace on a weekday. You've got to kind of be a little stern, and you've got to kind of walk fast, because you've got to get in there and do your job. It's a prison sentence.
When we're able to give people information:
yathaidhāṁsi samiddho ’gnir
bhasma-sāt kurute ’rjuna
jñānāgniḥ sarva-karmāṇi
bhasma-sāt kurute tathā || (BG 4.37)
You give somebody this fire of knowledge, and they are able to burn to ashes all of their karma. Karma means what's driving people to walk to work and go to certain realms of the material world. They are pushed into it. It's like, "Get in there, buddy. You have to stay there." But you can liberate them by giving them an opportunity to understand the philosophy of Kṛṣṇa consciousness, to come in contact with devotees, and then we win.
Yay! Back home, back to Godhead.
(excerpt from the talk)
Verse for discussion: https://vedabase.io/en/library/sb/2/8/15/
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