Jesse Jackson is joined by Lou and Karen on JKL Media/Set Listing and Bruce for a pop-culture detour focused on Star Trek as they react to the losses of Walter Koenig (Chekov) and Patrick Stewart (Picard). They share how Star Trek shaped their lives, discuss generational connections to Kirk vs. Picard, and highlight Stewart’s broader career (Professor X and other roles), screen presence, and personal complexities. They reflect on Koenig’s limited material on the original series, his writing work, and his standout turn as Bester on Babylon 5, including a story from J. Michael Straczynski about promising to write a role worthy of Koenig’s talent. The conversation emphasizes grief, gratitude for performances, and the reminder of mortality, before closing with Jesse’s podcast plugs and a call for kinder fan culture.

00:00 B-Side Welcome

00:37 JKL Media Introductions

01:20 Star Trek Losses

02:33 Karen Remembers

05:00 Lou Reflects

08:28 Chekov And Bester

14:06 Icons Of Youth

15:35 JMS Tribute Story

19:53 Picard Legacy Talk

22:10 Final Thoughts Roundup

26:37 Podcast Housekeeping

29:06 Closing Sign Off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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