This week on the show we're joined by a delightful panel of immersive creators who are headed to the Edinburgh Festival Fringe — the largest

performing arts fest in the world that pretty much takes over Edinburgh, Scotland for the month of August – for a very loose conversation that feels a bit like sneaking backstage


Joining us for the episode are are Emily Carding, creator and performer ofHamlet (an experience), Peter Michael Marino, whose Planet of the Grapes is headed to Fringe after a sold our run in NYC, and Katy Murphy, creator of the interactive games how (No) Refunds— which is hosted by her alter ego Tiffany Gold.


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