You hired an experienced salesperson, gave them a few weeks of ride-alongs, handed them a territory….and six months later, it's just not working. What went wrong?
In this episode of the Landscape Leadership® Podcast, Chad Diller talks with Kayla Lujan, founder of GRIT (Green Industry Talent), about why new salespeople struggle to gain traction in landscaping and other green industry businesses. Kayla draws on 17 years of industry experience, from working on a crew to leading sales for a top 25 landscape company, to explain why hiring the right person is only the beginning.
We unpack what effective onboarding actually looks like, why sales managers need to coach behaviors instead of simply managing numbers, and what owners should realistically expect during a salesperson's first 30, 60, and 90 days. They also challenge a long-held green industry hiring assumption: Your next great salesperson may not need green industry experience at all.
Key discussion points:
Why ride-alongs alone aren't an onboarding program
How to create clear objectives and expectations for new sales hires
Why information overload can stall a new salesperson
The difference between managing sales numbers and coaching the behaviors that produce them
Why sales leaders need to spend intentional time in the field with their team
How stronger personal relationships make sales coaching more effective
What owners should expect at 30, 60, and 90 days
Why industry experience isn't necessarily the best predictor of sales success
The traits Kayla looks for when hiring salespeople
What separates good salespeople from great ones
Why you can't hire your way out of a people-development problem
Chapters
0:00 Intro 0:42 Meet Kayla Lujan 2:20 Hiring Is Where the Work Begins 3:57 Early Warning Signs in Sales Onboarding 5:12 Why Ride-Alongs Aren't Enough 8:47 Building a Roadmap for New Salespeople 10:18 Managing Numbers vs. Coaching Behaviors 14:16 Why Sales Leaders Need to Get in the Field 16:54 Building Trust Before You Coach 19:40 Are Owners Expecting Results Too Quickly? 21:12 What to Expect in the First 30, 60 & 90 Days 23:02 Where Should You Find Great Salespeople? 24:54 Stop Making Sales a Dumping Ground 27:44 Can Great Sales Skills Be Taught? 29:23 Rapid-Fire Sales Leadership Advice 31:27 How GRIT Helps Green Industry Sales Teams 33:02 The Real Key to Developing Great Salespeople
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