BONUS: The Hidden Dangers of AI at Work With Ari-Pekka Skarp
AI is usually sold as a productivity tool, but Ari-Pekka Skarp argues that the real story is what it does to the conversations, skills, and purpose that hold teams together. In this BONUS episode, Ari-Pekka explores why organizations are rushing to use AI "as efficiently as possible" without defining what efficiency means, and what that rush is quietly costing us.
Organizations Are Conversations
"The organizations are actually conversations, conversational patterns between people."
Ari-Pekka's path from software engineering in 1999 to psychology, psychotherapy, and change leadership was driven by one thread: how the mind works, both individually and socially. Meeting Ralph Stacey, Esko Kilpi, and Douglas Griffin at Nokia changed how he saw organizations. Instead of a machine made of parts, an organization is a living pattern of conversations — people responding to each other's gestures, again and again. George Mead added the idea that the human mind itself is not individual but relational. This matters for AI because a large language model is a new kind of player in those conversations, not just a tool that moves data between them.
The Efficiency Fetish
"It's like how much people are pressing the acceleration pedal in the car. It doesn't tell anything where the car is going."
Many organizations are trying to use AI "as efficiently as possible," but Ari-Pekka points out that few have defined what efficiency means. What he sees instead is measurement of AI usage itself — how many people are prompting, how many tokens are flowing. He calls this tokenmaxxing. The car metaphor is the key: pressing the accelerator harder says nothing about direction, and going fast in the wrong direction is more costly than going slow. Efficiency only has meaning against a purpose, and purpose is itself a conversational achievement — something a team has to talk its way into.
De-Skilling Is the Hidden Cost
"If there's nobody in the room who could review what AI has produced and say whether it's correct or not, it's not an AI strategy. It's a liability."
The risk Ari-Pekka worries about most is de-skilling. When we offload cognitive work to AI, we lose the friction that builds learning. There is neurological evidence that people who rely heavily on AI do not develop the same brain structures as those who work through challenges manually. Some skills are fine to lose — nobody needs machine code anymore — but the ability to review and judge AI output is critical, and it is exactly what erodes when we skip the slow work. The result is a double bind: senior experts burn out under the review burden of fast-produced AI output, while juniors never get the time to build the expertise they would need to review it.
We Need Speed Limits for AI
"We can't optimize individual going as fast as possible... we need a collective... boundaries for individuals."
Ari-Pekka reaches for a historical analogy. Our biological rate of processing information is roughly ten bits per second, and it is not going to change. When we only had horses, we did not need speed limits. When we built cars that could go 200 kilometers per hour, we had to invent rules and boundaries to protect the system. AI is the same: we have reached a threshold where optimizing individual output — more code, more stories, more messages — can damage the whole organization. The control mechanism Ari-Pekka proposes is cognitive friction, deliberately added back into the system so that speed serves the system rather than breaking it.
The Tokenization of Work
"It's very easy to lose the purpose where you are going if you are only doing fragments of work."
Ari-Pekka's article The Tokenization of Work describes what happens when the unit of work is no longer a job, a profession, or even a task. Digital tools make it easy to fragment work into tiny pieces and spread them across AI agents, and in the process the boundaries that gave work its meaning vanish. Purpose is what protects us from burnout: with a clear purpose, people can do very demanding work without burning out, because the work feeds them. Without purpose, exhaustion arrives fast. For Scrum Masters, this means grounding the work in why it matters is more important now, not less.
AI Is an Echo Chamber, Not a Mirror
"The AI is more kind of an echo chamber in a sense that it doesn't push back so much."
Ari-Pekka compares AI to George Mead's "generalized other" — the internalized sense of how others see us. AI can play that role, but with a dangerous twist: it is programmed to be agreeable, so it behaves more like an echo chamber than a mirror. Real people push back, point out mistakes, and keep disagreeing. That friction is where learning, competence, and self-awareness grow. Ari-Pekka's practical move is to prompt AI for three different and conflicting perspectives rather than one, using it to go wider rather than only faster. It is not a perfect fix — the model still tries to merge them into one — but it is better than a single agreeable answer.
A Three-Second Pause
"Take a three-second pause... and just ask yourself, what are you doing?"
Ari-Pekka leaves listeners with a small challenge. A few times a day, when you are about to prompt an AI, pause for three seconds and ask what you are actually doing: are you seeking information, or seeking confirmation? Then consider whether it would be better to call a person and have a real conversation. It is a tiny practice, but it points at the whole episode's message: AI is not neutral infrastructure. It changes the conversations, the skills, and the purpose of work, and the people who notice that — Scrum Masters and Agile coaches especially — are the ones who can keep it from quietly reshaping their teams.
About Ari-Pekka Skarp
Ari-Pekka Skarp is a psychologist, psychotherapist, Lead Change Coach, organizational psychologist, and author. He wrote Mindfulness, mielenselkeys ja myötätunto, hosts Mielen laboratorio, and researches nondualism. His work connects psychology, complexity, Agile, and AI at work.
You can link with Ari-Pekka Skarp on LinkedIn. You can read Ari-Pekka's Finnish writing at tietoisuustaidot.com and his English blog at Fractal Sauna. You can also find Ari-Pekka's previous Scrum Master Toolbox Podcast episodes on his guest page.
