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Tune In Before You Jump In: A Better Way to Delegate, with Shawn Vanderhoven

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When everything feels urgent, meaningful work rarely gets the attention it deserves. In episode 631 of the Lawyerist Podcast, Zack Glaser talks with leadership researcher and author Shawn Vanderhoven about how law firm leaders can create the clarity their teams need to focus and perform at their best. 

Drawing from his book, Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World, Shawn explains why effective leadership sometimes requires slowing down before moving forward. He shares what his research revealed about the behaviors that improve focus, the leadership habits that amplify distraction, and why teams struggle when every project is treated like a top priority. 

Together, they explore how to make realistic tradeoffs, involve your team in prioritization, delegate without derailing someone’s entire day, and create systems that make difficult conversations easier. Shawn also explains why asking, “What will it take to do this well?” can lead to better decisions than simply asking whether the work can get done. 

If your law firm is juggling too many priorities, this episode offers practical ways to reduce distraction, lead with greater clarity, and create space for work your team can be proud of. 

Listen to our previous episodes on Law Firm Leadership & Building Stronger Teams. 

#627: Building Stronger Law Firm Teams Through Better Communication, with Zeina Baydoun Apple | Spotify | LTN 

#615: How to Stop Being the Bottleneck and Build Stronger Teams, with Debbie Foster and Stephanie Everett Apple | Spotify | LTN 

#604: From Practice to Business: Scaling Beyond Yourself, with Andy Hays Apple | Spotify | LTN 

#592: Client Care, Culture, and Character: A Framework for Great Leaders, with William O’Neal Apple | Spotify | LTN 

#541: Why the Best Teams Have Keystone Conversations, with Michael Bungay Stanier Apple | Spotify | LTN 

Links from the episode: 

https://www.pausebook.co/ 

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Chapters / Timestamps 

00:00 – Introduction 

00:25 – A Different Kind of Law Firm Conference 

03:10 – LabCon for Law Firm Leaders 

07:05 – What Is Broken About Law Firm Intake 

11:30 – How to Secret Shop Your Firm 

15:15 – The Role of AI in Client Intake 

20:45 – Why Clients Still Want Access to Humans 

26:30 – Meet Shawn Vanderhoven 

29:15 – Why Leaders Need to Pause 

30:25 – How Leadership Can Improve Focus 

33:25 – When Everything Feels Important 

37:15 – Making Prioritization a Team Sport 

40:20 – Choosing Your Majors and Minors 

42:45 – A Better Way to Delegate Work 

46:10 – Navigating Competing Priorities 

49:10 – Making Difficult Conversations Easier 

54:45 – Creating Clarity Around What Matters 

56:10 – Pausing to Help Your Team Move Faster 

59:05 – Closing Thoughts 

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