In this episode, Soren interviews Xalavier Nelson, founder of Strange Scaffold and best known for his work on El Paso Elsewhere, Clickolding, and An Airport for Aliens Currently Run by Dogs. They discuss why he drew review screenshots using MS Paint, whether you should do the hard thing when making a game, and what’s a good price for eyeballs. This episode was recorded on March 9, 2026 and was engineered by Michael Hermes.

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