What happens when we evaluate marriage, IVF, surrogacy, and reproductive technology from the perspective of the child instead of the adult? Katy Faust, founder and president of Them Before Us, joins Faith in Health Care to explain the philosophy behind her work and the Greater Than campaign, a coalition seeking to challenge Obergefell v. Hodges and restore what Faust describes as a child-centered understanding of marriage and family. Katy discusses some of today’s most difficult questions surrounding IVF, embryo freezing, sperm and egg donation, surrogacy, same-sex parenting, divorce, infertility, and emerging reproductive technologies. She explains why she believes Christians should scrutinize these practices through the lens of children’s rights, human dignity, and biblical teaching. The conversation also explores how Christians can hold firm convictions while maintaining genuine relationships with people who disagree. Katy shares her own family experience, her approach to truth and compassion, and why she believes Christians must distinguish between loving individuals and evaluating ideas or public policy. This is a challenging conversation about children, family, reproductive technology, Christian ethics, and the rapidly changing meaning of parenthood.

Chapters

  • (00:00:08) - Introduction and Episode Preview
  • (00:01:56) - Welcoming Katie Faust Back to the Show
  • (00:05:07) - The Greater Than Campaign Explained
  • (00:07:51) - Church's Response to IVF and Reproductive Technology
  • (00:11:49) - Coalition Support and Judicial Pathway for Overturning Obergefell
  • (00:13:01) - Facing Backlash and Accusations of Hate
  • (00:15:48) - Responding to Southern Poverty Law Center and GLAAD
  • (00:20:07) - Being a 'Hot Potato' - Truth Over Comfort
  • (00:24:30) - Loving LGBTQ Neighbors While Holding Principles
  • (00:31:13) - Acceptance vs Affirmation - Personal Family Story
  • (00:33:21) - Truth-Telling and Theology of Losing Friends
  • (00:34:55) - IVF, Surrogacy, and the Ethics of Reproductive Technology
  • (00:42:28) - The Children's Rights Scorecard by State
  • (00:45:45) - Biblical Foundations - Genesis, Marriage, and Justice for Children
  • (00:50:15) - Action Steps for Christians in Healthcare
  • (00:53:12) - Closing Thoughts and Resources

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