After 14 years of Yorkshire vets, cruise ships and All Creatures Great and Small, Ben Frow is stepping down at 5. Broadcast's Heather Fallon on the end of an era - and who could possibly follow him.

Also on the show: new launches are down on broadcasters and streamers alike - and so are the bank balances of the people who make them. Indielab founder Victoria Powell on what small indies can do about it, and why the whole industry is heading to GrowthLab London at the Barbican.

All that plus: Marina Hyde goes Always On, the gossip from MIPCOM... and, in The Audio Network Media Quiz, we gather the suspects in the drawing room.

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What The Media Club has been reading this week:

Ben Frow steps down at 5

Marina Hyde launches Always On with Goalhanger

Netflix and Disney+ new launches down in 2026

GrowthLab London 2026

BBC asks court to make Trump sit for deposition

Fox's Rob Wade: "We're not here to flip a house"

Ian Hislop marks 40 years at Private Eye

Girls returns to HBO

Podnews Daily goes to video

GTA VI gets podcasts

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