As You Wish Talk Radio with James Gilliland

Psionics, UFO Contact, and the ECETI Ranch Phenomena with Peter Maxwell Slattery and Troy Gavin

James Gilliland is joined by Peter Maxwell Slattery of Jaya Sanctuary and Troy Gavin of WhiteHawk Psionics to talk about field research into UFO and orb activity in Australia and at Gilliland's Mount Adams ranch, blending scientific instrumentation with a heart-centered approach to contact.

Two Guests Join From Down Under James Gilliland opens the broadcast from ECETI Stargate, urging listeners to share the show because, he says, platforms are shadow banning it even as outside creators pull huge numbers with the same clips. He welcomes two guests from Australia, Peter Maxwell Slattery of Jaya Sanctuary and Troy Gavin, a former member of the Australian Defence Force who now leads WhiteHawk Psionics. Troy explains that the year-old company studies the relationship between human consciousness and UAP activity, combining trained psionic practice with field observation at Slattery's sanctuary using thermal and low-light cameras, flight and satellite tracking, and environmental monitoring. Rather than asking audiences to simply believe, he says the goal is to let people experience the phenomena directly so it can be documented and evaluated. Gilliland responds enthusiastically, noting his own decades of trying to marry higher-dimensional activity with hard instrumentation, including infrared and ultraviolet imaging that can reveal what he calls fifth-dimensional craft.

Instruments Bring Science To The Phenomena Peter Maxwell Slattery describes technology used at Jaya Sanctuary, including work with Matt Shields on PIP equipment that registered color changes in real time as different beings and energies appeared, and Dr. Jim Segala's MUPAS device, which the pair say simultaneously tracks roughly sixteen readings similar to Geiger counters, K2 meters, and trifield meters. He says microwave radiation readings jump from a baseline of about four to over twenty when beings or lights appear in a home. Gilliland adds that his own trifield meter reacts the moment he approaches it, though he admits he does not fully understand the mechanism. Slattery frames the equipment as confirmation of what experiencers already sense, tying instrumentation to consciousness research that Troy Gavin has pursued. Troy says WhiteHawk is fielding growing interest across Australia from people asking how to refine their own observation protocols, and that the team wants to compare field methodology and behavioral patterns of the phenomenon with what Gilliland has documented for decades at Mount Adams.

Multidimensional Beings At Mount Adams Gilliland describes Mount Adams as a wilderness of glaciers, cliffs, and fire-scarred terrain where lights move faster than anything human, once crossing a field at what he calculates was nearly 200 miles an hour in front of several witnesses. He says a huge door opens on the mountainside from which ships emerge, footage Slattery says he has captured himself, and that remote viewers arriving with no prior knowledge have independently described feline and elven beings, advanced technology, and what Gilliland calls a galactic airport inside the mountain. He insists these are not simple gray aliens but ancient, multidimensional beings testing how humanity handles their presence, and that anyone unclear in themselves will find old fears surfacing before them. He credits witnesses including engineers, military pilots, and air traffic controllers who cannot identify the craft but describe them as intelligent and interactive. Slattery agrees the pair work from a heart-based, peace-oriented approach, distancing their research from covert programs he claims exist elsewhere involving captured psychic operatives.

Troy's Path From A Silent Craft To The Field Troy Gavin recounts the sighting that started his search: a silent craft with a beam of light seen while camping with friends in a national park during his last years of high school, an event with no comparison to anything he knew. He joined the Australian Air Force soon after and had further experiences in uniform, then spent years visiting roughly fifty countries' ancient sites, from the Pyramids and Machu Picchu to Stonehenge and Uluru, meditating and studying archaeology to understand what he believes humanity has forgotten. He describes a recent sky watch in Texas where his group tracked bright orange orbs for an extended period until a fast jet circled the objects a dozen times; pulling its registration from flight-tracking software traced the aircraft to a private aerospace company testing radar equipment. For Troy, the incident raises questions about why military-linked technology was active at exactly that time and place, adding another data point to the team's growing record.

Attacks, Healing, And Vanishing Footage The conversation turns darker as Gilliland describes years of alleged intimidation, including cut brake lines and being shot at, and an episode in which his arm appeared covered in blisters, as if microwaved, only to heal completely overnight; Slattery says he witnessed the injury and considered calling for emergency care before it vanished by morning. Both men describe cameras and recording equipment repeatedly failing to capture the most dramatic moments, from an orb the size of a house near Slattery's cabin to a ship exploding into light near a family campfire at Gilliland's ranch, footage that later shows nothing despite audible reactions on the audio track. They frame this as evidence of a heart-based, non-abusive relationship with the phenomenon rather than proof against it, arguing that ego-driven bragging, as with an unnamed cameraman at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada, causes recordings to disappear entirely, while humble, loving intent tends to be rewarded with clear results instead.

A Closing Call To Fund The Real Work As the hour closes, Gilliland argues that decades of official UFO investigation, which he calls an eighty-year failure costing billions, has produced nothing beyond blurry Tic Tac footage while heart-centered researchers like Slattery and Gavin struggle to keep their utilities paid. He urges listeners to redirect support away from what he describes as corrupt, ego-driven figures in the field and toward people he sees as genuinely dedicated to humanity's awakening. Troy directs listeners to the newly launched WhiteHawk Psionics website and Instagram for footage, newsletter sign-ups, and future research updates, while Slattery points to Jaya Sanctuary's website and thanks Gilliland for years of support. Gilliland closes by quoting a line attributed to Mary that universal peace will come through the hearts and minds of people rather than governments or religions, telling listeners that contact requires the same rise in collective consciousness, approached with an open mind, a loving heart, and pure intent before signing off for the night.

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