Before any new therapy or medicine is placed on the shelves of a pharmacy, it needs to be tested in humans first.
What does that process look like? And who are the people testing these new drugs?
Jonathan Webb goes behind the curtain of clinical trials with health reporter Lauren Roberts to take a look at what happens in Australia.
You can binge more episodes of the Lab Notes podcast with science editor and presenter Jonathan Webb on the ABC Listen app (Australia). You'll find episodes on animal behaviour, human health, space exploration and so much more.
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