Her college career office was supposed to forward her resume to a foundation. Instead, Ariel Investments kept it, and she ended up working next to the founder.

Liz sits down with Lena Diasti, Chief of Staff to John Rogers, founder, chairman and co-CEO of Ariel Investments. We get into what a Chief of Staff actually does, how to leave investment banking before the "two years" are up, and why relationships end up mattering more than Excel spreadsheets. 

Plus, a Gilmore Girls hot take and the trick for perfectly smooth hummus.

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