In episode 5, we finally get answers to the biggest remaining questions in this case—straight from the federal agents who knocked on Stacie's door over 20 years ago. Now we're talking with Jim Cole and Josh Findley about the other cases they've worked and the hard-won lessons from their careers protecting children and victims.

Check out Jim Cole's new podcast, Unlikely Allies: https://ourrescue.org/unlikelyallies

Learn more about Josh Findley's work: https://www.onemi-global.com/

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Learn more about the cases in this episode:

William A Knudsen, a case from 2007: https://www.oregonlive.com/breakingnews/2007/06/excounselor_at_troutdale_eleme.html

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