Why do empaths attract narcissists? Koya Webb reveals why burnout is a nervous system problem, not a mindset problem, and how to stop self-abandoning for good.
In this episode of the Meta Superhuman Podcast, Priya Saini sits down with Koya Webb, Global Teacher of Embodied Leadership, author of Wellbeing Rituals, and a holistic wellbeing leader for 25+ years.
Koya shares why the most giving people burn out hardest, why empaths and narcissists keep finding each other, and how to set healthy boundaries without over-explaining. She also explains how to choose gratitude instead of guilt when life gets in the way of your rituals.
We go deep into her CHBT Method (Connect, Heal, Build, Thrive), the one free ritual she'd give to anyone, and what embodied leadership really looks like. Plus, Koya does The Name Code exercise live and shares what her name means to her.
If you give everything to everyone and have nothing left for yourself, this episode is for you.
In this episode, you'll learn:
✨ What actually happens in your body when you burn out
✨ Why empaths attract narcissists and how to break the pattern
✨ How to recognize when you're self-abandoning
✨ How to heal without closing your heart
✨ The CHBT Method for holistic wellbeing
✨ Why breath healing is the #1 ritual for nervous system regulation
✨ The first ritual for women running on empty
CHAPTERS:
0:00 Teaser
2:10 Intro
17:32 Welcome Koya Webb
18:31 What happens in your body during burnout
20:19 Can mystics really skip sleep?
21:45 Who was Koya before it all began?
23:36 Growing up holistic by default
24:24 Why empaths feel called to heal
26:49 Burnout is a nervous system problem
28:51 A schedule for your wellbeing
30:24 Gratitude instead of guilt
33:06 The CHBT Method explained
36:47 Connect: daily spiritual practice
38:59 The most common emotional wound
41:26 Why empaths attract narcissists
45:05 How to stop self-abandoning
48:27 When healing turns into hardness
52:30 Build: why rituals don't stick
54:52 Constant urgency and motherhood
59:28 Thrive: why every area works together
1:01:23 The #1 ritual: breath healing
1:03:26 Why we repeat the burnout cycle
1:04:42 Why the most giving burn out hardest
1:06:15 What successful people have in common
1:08:42 What embodied leadership really means
1:11:09 Why Mel Robbins & Jay Shetty endorsed her book
1:13:32 The Name Code exercise
1:17:46 First ritual for women running on empty
1:18:30 What being Meta Superhuman means to Koya
1:19:15 Final message & where to find Koya
ABOUT KOYA WEBB:
Koya Webb is a globally recognized transformational speaker, Global Teacher of Embodied Leadership, and founder of the Get Loved Up Embodied Leadership Academy. She created Embody Breath™, a breath-based method for nervous system regulation and emotional release, and wrote Wellbeing Rituals (Wiley, 2026). Featured in Forbes, Goop, ESSENCE, NBC, and CBS.
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