This week, right after the Fourth of July, Maura Sullivan and Rebecca Bennett turn from their own stories to a bigger question: what does it actually mean to be patriotic in America right now? From Trump's approach to NATO and Ukraine to the Supreme Court's latest ruling on guns, the two veterans are clear-eyed about where the country's leadership is failing, and just as clear that the instincts service gave them — mission over self, and finding common ground with almost anyone — are what it needs more of. Along the way they share deployed Fourth of July memories, the pride of wearing the flag overseas, and the bipartisan veterans' caucus giving them hope, before they start taking listener questions.
Look for more conversations ahead about the experiences, leadership, and service of women veterans.
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