Recorded September 21, 2026. Sunil and Rhys join the Jevolution. Sunil explains the Senior Engineer Death Spiral, the blog post that blew up his DMs (and annoyed capital-E Engineers on Hacker News). Rhys looks back on YC and shows off his latest workflow. And we definitely do not talk about AI safety.
LINKS / ON-SCREEN REFERENCES, IN ORDER
INTRO
Executor (Rhys's company) https://executor.sh
OpenAI, re: Navier-Stokes Millennium Prize Problem https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution/
Navier-Stokes credit drama https://www.axios.com/2026/09/08/openai-math-solution-navier-stokes-credit
OpenAI's models resolve 100+ open math problems https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/21/openai-forms-math-advisory-group-as-its-ai-resolves-more-than-100-open-problems/
Astra https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/03/openai-launches-astra-its-powerful-and-controversial-new-model/
Rhys's "make it fast" walk https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2101807287421808805
THE JEVOLUTION
TypeSafe, Introducing System One Models & Jev https://typesafe.ai/blog/introducing-system-one-models-and-jev
Noul (Jev's "how much of a yes" answer) https://docs.typesafe.ai/primitives/noul
Sunil's disaster-prone city sim https://x.com/threepointone/status/2100576921629163848
Live-editing a tldraw canvas with Jev https://x.com/jackcheng/status/2100729670991802386
json-render + Jev, by Chris Tate (ctate) https://x.com/ctatedev/status/2101022101750571357
Vercel eve, auto-approving tool calls with Jev https://vercel.com/kb/guide/auto-approve-tool-calls-eve-jev
Code Mode https://blog.cloudflare.com/code-mode/
Jevons paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox
William Stanley Jevons https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stanley_Jevons
The TypeSafe team https://x.com/typesafeai/affiliates
TypeSafe's CEO enjoying Discord https://x.com/typesafeai/status/2101451220896682107
TypeSafe Discord https://discord.gg/typesafe
Diogo Almeida at Cloudflare Connect 2026 https://x.com/Cloudflare/status/2101016455533715880
Diogo on Latent Space https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jev-system-one-models-for-prod-not-god-with-diogo/id1674008350?i=1000791005427
"The Innovator's Dilemma," Clay Christensen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma
"How Will You Measure Your Life?," Clay Christensen https://www.christenseninstitute.org/book/how-will-you-measure-your-life/
The machine that digs up dirt, bro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excavator
Rhys on things that are "obvious in retrospect" https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2097425107866239333
Rhys on the execution layer https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2030903539871154193
IE 8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8
THE SENIOR ENGINEER DEATH SPIRAL
Sunil Pai, "The Senior Engineer Death Spiral" https://sunilpai.dev/posts/the-senior-engineer-death-spiral/
Sunil's tweet on it https://x.com/threepointone/status/2101361724766953754
Claude Shannon (sadly not French) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claude_Shannon
Hacker News discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49776130
RHYS & YC
Executor on YC https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/executor
Answer Overflow https://www.answeroverflow.com
RHYS'S WORKFLOW II
Rhys finally gets Dax's reply https://x.com/RhysSullivan/status/2102167276858577286
Effect https://effect.website
Zeke invented Swagger/OpenAPI https://x.com/threepointone/status/2100229294932766853
OpenAPI https://www.openapis.org
Cloudflare Artifacts https://www.cloudflare.com/products/artifacts/
Alchemy https://alchemy.run
GitHub stacked pull requests https://github.blog/changelog/2026-07-30-stacked-pull-requests-are-now-in-public-preview/
Autumn https://useautumn.com/
Ryan Dahl's celld https://www.theregister.com/devops/2026/08/12/nodejs-creator-liberates-durable-objects-from-cloudflare-with-celld/5286954
Ryan Dahl on how he develops celld (the two-repo thing) https://x.com/rough__sea/status/2092091242377265562
Lauren Tan (poteto) on pstack https://x.com/poteto/status/2094689242903355421
T3 Code https://t3.codes/
OpenCode https://opencode.ai
Cloudflare Email Service https://developers.cloudflare.com/email-service/
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HOSTS
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